Nokia dropping Symbian from N-Series by 2012 [UPDATED]

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la la la la, nokias worst kept secret

“‘Maemo Select’, the current community-portal for Maemo applications, will initially run alongside Nokia’s Ovi store, which is due to launch for the N900 via a software update next month. However, in the longer term it too will be retired leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices.”

look like false rumors

Not surprised really.

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‘Maemo Select’ sounds interesting to me. Looking forward to it! But just wondering what are the drawbacks of Symbian S60 that Nokia is moving from its mainstream OS.

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symbian isnt being dropped, its will live along side maemo, say N series (& E?) will be maemo, and X, numbered devices will be S60. Though i suspect X will go maemo as its social/media abilitys are way beyond S60. and maybe E will stick with S60. so Symbian and maemo will both exist, its more news that maemo will go into mass market consumer devices as appropiate, rather than the death of S60.

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I was talking of ‘leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices’

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well maemo select is free apps only, so the app eco system needs a paid app outlet. Maemo select will be retired to prevent there being ‘app stores’

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I’ve reported verbatim what the presenter from Maemo said to me in an open discussion with several other people at the N900 meetup in London last night. Which part is false?

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I specifically asked if Nokia wanted to have two different routes to obtain apps for Maemo and whether that would cause problems for them taking it mass market (where it will need to be simple) and was told that Ovi store would ultimately be the only thing on the device… Whether or nor Maemo Select continues to be a resource that geeks can still utilise is a different question.

Symbian will still be on the majority of Nokia’s mainstream devices, just not the top-end. Right now Symbian’s far more mature and suitable for general use, but Nokia clearly plan to get Maemo there too.

What will be interesting will be the impact on developers – how portable will code be between the platforms in real-world use… If you develop a general-use app and want to address users on a range of devices how much extra effort will it be to support both.

Also, what will happen to the trickle-down of features that happens from N-Series to the other ranges…?

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as with s60 there seems to be heath robinson approach to dev enviroment
not sure what ide’s are available but maemo site suggest you use vi

love or loathe apple, the xcode dev environment/programme is very very good
and eclipse / android isn’t too shabby.

though i suspect if i dele

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its funny how “Symbian’s greatest strength, it’s legacy and maturity, has begun to look like an Achilles heal as newer platforms have captured consumers’ imaginations”, but these same consumers think that Maemo, a linux OS, is somehow new and fresh.

Linux, the monolithic kernel that it is, is just a clone of a very old, antiquated technology. I’m not arguing against linux, I think it’s great and has plenty of life left in it: but whatever strength, elasticity, versatility, name-your-buzzword linux has so too does Symbian. FOR THE SAME REASONS as a matter of fact. With one small difference: Symbian is a microkernel. Microkernels are inherently more well suited for constrained system resources. So, ahh, well – Symbian may have been a better choice were it not so unpopular.

It is sad how the idiots of the world get to rule the decision making process with their opinions and the facts don’t speak louder than them (don’t take insult, I’m not including you – looks to me that you know the strengths of Symbian).

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Nope, not false rumours – exactly what the lady from Maemo (who’s name escapes me) said to Ben and me!

The marketing representative at the London event told me that Symbian “would not be used on N-Series between now and 2012″ (quoted, verbatim) and the unspoken point was that it would be reconsidered once Symbian^4 from OSF becomes available as an alternative option to Maemo.

I think you misheard, or misunderstood, what she was telling you as what you have posted in this blog is entirely incorrect with regard to what I was told, directly, at the London event.

No offence taken – I agree with your point…

I guess the problem is that whilst the Symbian technical approach *should* win on paper, the experience for the end-user is pretty poor and newer platforms (whatever their sins in other departments) have improved on that a lot…

Nokia are saying that Maemo is intended for ‘mobile computing’ and assuming that that’s what N-Series will mean in future (as video and multimedia specialism moves to X-Series) it could be that Symbian’s not a great fit there, but regardless it still needs to improve otherwise it could find itself being replaced in the other ranges too…

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Neil,

All I can report is what I heard. The conversation I’m reporting included other bloggers (including Kip Hakes who’s commented above that my write-up is accurate), it is in-line with earlier leaks (such as this from the FT in Germany: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/11/nokia-ditching-symbian-for-maemo-german-ft-reports/) and has been supported by private conversations with people I trust, but who can’t go on-record.

Nokia certainly could change their mind about strategy between now and 2012 (in fact between now and christmas), but as of now I believe this is their intention.

Ben

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la la la la, nokias worst kept secret

la la la la, nokias worst kept secret

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“‘Maemo Select’, the current community-portal for Maemo applications, will initially run alongside Nokia’s Ovi store, which is due to launch for the N900 via a software update next month. However, in the longer term it too will be retired leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices.”look like false rumors

“‘Maemo Select’, the current community-portal for Maemo applications, will initially run alongside Nokia’s Ovi store, which is due to launch for the N900 via a software update next month. However, in the longer term it too will be retired leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices.”

look like false rumors

Not surprised really.

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Perhaps the rep muddled her words either to me or to you and your group (English not being her first language, and after all there are only slight – but crucial – differences between what we both heard) however given the past and future investment planned by Nokia in Symbian and the timelines projected for Symbian^4, I find the version I received and quoted here makes more business and technical sense than to suggest that Nokia intend to ditch Symbian completely by 2012 onwards on their high-end products.

‘Maemo Select’ sounds interesting to me. Looking forward to it! But just wondering what are the drawbacks of Symbian S60 that Nokia is moving from its mainstream OS.

‘Maemo Select’ sounds interesting to me. Looking forward to it! But just wondering what are the drawbacks of Symbian S60 that Nokia is moving from its mainstream OS.

[...] And now, at the official N900 meet-up in London, Nokia has pretty much admitted it. Nokia’s NSeries devices – i.e. most of their high-end smartphones – will all be powered by Linux-based Maemo by 2012. [...]

I guess we’ll have to wait and see, but to me it sounds far more likely that they have a direction of travel defined (phase out Symbian on N-Series) than a firm decision to re-adopt it in 2012.

If we see another Symbian N-Series before 2012 we’ll know who was right

symbian isnt being dropped, its will live along side maemo, say N series (& E?) will be maemo, and X, numbered devices will be S60. Though i suspect X will go maemo as its social/media abilitys are way beyond S60. and maybe E will stick with S60. so Symbian and maemo will both exist, its more news that maemo will go into mass market consumer devices as appropiate, rather than the death of S60.

symbian isnt being dropped, its will live along side maemo, say N series (& E?) will be maemo, and X, numbered devices will be S60. Though i suspect X will go maemo as its social/media abilitys are way beyond S60. and maybe E will stick with S60. so Symbian and maemo will both exist, its more news that maemo will go into mass market consumer devices as appropiate, rather than the death of S60.

Thanks man, just what I was looking for. Worked like a charm Thanks so much…

it must be stable enough before Nokia will change OS since Maemo was known this OS for Internet Tablet only… >_<

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I was talking of 'leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices'

I was talking of 'leaving only the Ovi Store as the official Nokia source for free and paid applications promoted on Symbian and Maemo devices'

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well maemo select is free apps only, so the app eco system needs a paid app outlet. Maemo select will be retired to prevent there being 'app stores'

well maemo select is free apps only, so the app eco system needs a paid app outlet. Maemo select will be retired to prevent there being 'app stores'

I've reported verbatim what the presenter from Maemo said to me in an open discussion with several other people at the N900 meetup in London last night. Which part is false?

I've reported verbatim what the presenter from Maemo said to me in an open discussion with several other people at the N900 meetup in London last night. Which part is false?

I specifically asked if Nokia wanted to have two different routes to obtain apps for Maemo and whether that would cause problems for them taking it mass market (where it will need to be simple) and was told that Ovi store would ultimately be the only thing on the device… Whether or nor Maemo Select continues to be a resource that geeks can still utilise is a different question.

I specifically asked if Nokia wanted to have two different routes to obtain apps for Maemo and whether that would cause problems for them taking it mass market (where it will need to be simple) and was told that Ovi store would ultimately be the only thing on the device… Whether or nor Maemo Select continues to be a resource that geeks can still utilise is a different question.

Symbian will still be on the majority of Nokia's mainstream devices, just not the top-end. Right now Symbian's far more mature and suitable for general use, but Nokia clearly plan to get Maemo there too.

Symbian will still be on the majority of Nokia's mainstream devices, just not the top-end. Right now Symbian's far more mature and suitable for general use, but Nokia clearly plan to get Maemo there too.

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What will be interesting will be the impact on developers – how portable will code be between the platforms in real-world use… If you develop a general-use app and want to address users on a range of devices how much extra effort will it be to support both.Also, what will happen to the trickle-down of features that happens from N-Series to the other ranges…?

What will be interesting will be the impact on developers – how portable will code be between the platforms in real-world use… If you develop a general-use app and want to address users on a range of devices how much extra effort will it be to support both.

Also, what will happen to the trickle-down of features that happens from N-Series to the other ranges…?

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And how is symbian being thrown on to a corner with the on coming of Maemo , New Phones of the N Series will be coming out and the symbian V5 version which is the latest will be worked on

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as with s60 there seems to be heath robinson approach to dev enviromentnot sure what ide's are available but maemo site suggest you use vi love or loathe apple, the xcode dev environment/programme is very very goodand eclipse / android isn't too shabby.though i suspect if i dele

as with s60 there seems to be heath robinson approach to dev enviroment
not sure what ide's are available but maemo site suggest you use vi

love or loathe apple, the xcode dev environment/programme is very very good
and eclipse / android isn't too shabby.

though i suspect if i dele

its funny how “Symbian’s greatest strength, it’s legacy and maturity, has begun to look like an Achilles heal as newer platforms have captured consumers’ imaginations”, but these same consumers think that Maemo, a linux OS, is somehow new and fresh.Linux, the monolithic kernel that it is, is just a clone of a very old, antiquated technology. I'm not arguing against linux, I think it's great and has plenty of life left in it: but whatever strength, elasticity, versatility, name-your-buzzword linux has so too does Symbian. FOR THE SAME REASONS as a matter of fact. With one small difference: Symbian is a microkernel. Microkernels are inherently more well suited for constrained system resources. So, ahh, well – Symbian may have been a better choice were it not so unpopular.It is sad how the idiots of the world get to rule the decision making process with their opinions and the facts don't speak louder than them (don't take insult, I'm not including you – looks to me that you know the strengths of Symbian).

its funny how “Symbian’s greatest strength, it’s legacy and maturity, has begun to look like an Achilles heal as newer platforms have captured consumers’ imaginations”, but these same consumers think that Maemo, a linux OS, is somehow new and fresh.

Linux, the monolithic kernel that it is, is just a clone of a very old, antiquated technology. I'm not arguing against linux, I think it's great and has plenty of life left in it: but whatever strength, elasticity, versatility, name-your-buzzword linux has so too does Symbian. FOR THE SAME REASONS as a matter of fact. With one small difference: Symbian is a microkernel. Microkernels are inherently more well suited for constrained system resources. So, ahh, well – Symbian may have been a better choice were it not so unpopular.

It is sad how the idiots of the world get to rule the decision making process with their opinions and the facts don't speak louder than them (don't take insult, I'm not including you – looks to me that you know the strengths of Symbian).

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Nope, not false rumours – exactly what the lady from Maemo (who's name escapes me) said to Ben and me!

Nope, not false rumours – exactly what the lady from Maemo (who's name escapes me) said to Ben and me!

The marketing representative at the London event told me that Symbian “would not be used on N-Series between now and 2012″ (quoted, verbatim) and the unspoken point was that it would be reconsidered once Symbian^4 from OSF becomes available as an alternative option to Maemo.I think you misheard, or misunderstood, what she was telling you as what you have posted in this blog is entirely incorrect with regard to what I was told, directly, at the London event.

The marketing representative at the London event told me that Symbian “would not be used on N-Series between now and 2012″ (quoted, verbatim) and the unspoken point was that it would be reconsidered once Symbian^4 from OSF becomes available as an alternative option to Maemo.

I think you misheard, or misunderstood, what she was telling you as what you have posted in this blog is entirely incorrect with regard to what I was told, directly, at the London event.

No offence taken – I agree with your point…I guess the problem is that whilst the Symbian technical approach *should* win on paper, the experience for the end-user is pretty poor and newer platforms (whatever their sins in other departments) have improved on that a lot…Nokia are saying that Maemo is intended for 'mobile computing' and assuming that that's what N-Series will mean in future (as video and multimedia specialism moves to X-Series) it could be that Symbian's not a great fit there, but regardless it still needs to improve otherwise it could find itself being replaced in the other ranges too…

No offence taken – I agree with your point…

I guess the problem is that whilst the Symbian technical approach *should* win on paper, the experience for the end-user is pretty poor and newer platforms (whatever their sins in other departments) have improved on that a lot…

Nokia are saying that Maemo is intended for 'mobile computing' and assuming that that's what N-Series will mean in future (as video and multimedia specialism moves to X-Series) it could be that Symbian's not a great fit there, but regardless it still needs to improve otherwise it could find itself being replaced in the other ranges too…

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Neil,All I can report is what I heard. The conversation I'm reporting included other bloggers (including Kip Hakes who's commented above that my write-up is accurate), it is in-line with earlier leaks (such as this from the FT in Germany: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/11/nokia-ditch…) and has been supported by private conversations with people I trust, but who can't go on-record.Nokia certainly could change their mind about strategy between now and 2012 (in fact between now and christmas), but as of now I believe this is their intention.Ben

Neil,

All I can report is what I heard. The conversation I'm reporting included other bloggers (including Kip Hakes who's commented above that my write-up is accurate), it is in-line with earlier leaks (such as this from the FT in Germany: http://eu.techcrunch.com/2009/08/11/nokia-ditch…) and has been supported by private conversations with people I trust, but who can't go on-record.

Nokia certainly could change their mind about strategy between now and 2012 (in fact between now and christmas), but as of now I believe this is their intention.

Ben

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Perhaps the rep muddled her words either to me or to you and your group (English not being her first language, and after all there are only slight – but crucial – differences between what we both heard) however given the past and future investment planned by Nokia in Symbian and the timelines projected for Symbian^4, I find the version I received and quoted here makes more business and technical sense than to suggest that Nokia intend to ditch Symbian completely by 2012 onwards on their high-end products.

Perhaps the rep muddled her words either to me or to you and your group (English not being her first language, and after all there are only slight – but crucial – differences between what we both heard) however given the past and future investment planned by Nokia in Symbian and the timelines projected for Symbian^4, I find the version I received and quoted here makes more business and technical sense than to suggest that Nokia intend to ditch Symbian completely by 2012 onwards on their high-end products.

[...] Really Mobile Project went to the official Nokia N900 meet up in London last night, and are reporting that the Maemo guys have said that Symbian will not feature as the OS in N-Series devices from 2012 [...]

Wow. Supporting two distinct OS’s seems like a heroic undertaking, even for Nokia. It’s not just the engineering resources consumed by the twin efforts, but also the confusion it creates in the developer community, among potential customers and carriers, and internally.

It seems odd that Nokia doesn’t just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications–which has become the basis upon which people are selecting handsets–and address the huge Symbian diversity issues that have made Ovi so hard to pull off.

[...] And now, at the official N900 meet-up in London, Nokia has pretty much admitted it. Nokia’s NSeries devices – i.e. most of their high-end smartphones – will all be powered by Linux-based Maemo by 2012. [...]

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but to me it sounds far more likely that they have a direction of travel defined (phase out Symbian on N-Series) than a firm decision to re-adopt it in 2012.If we see another Symbian N-Series before 2012 we'll know who was right

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but to me it sounds far more likely that they have a direction of travel defined (phase out Symbian on N-Series) than a firm decision to re-adopt it in 2012.

If we see another Symbian N-Series before 2012 we'll know who was right

Thanks man, just what I was looking for. Worked like a charm Thanks so much…

Thanks man, just what I was looking for. Worked like a charm Thanks so much…

it must be stable enough before Nokia will change OS since Maemo was known this OS for Internet Tablet only… >_<

it must be stable enough before Nokia will change OS since Maemo was known this OS for Internet Tablet only… >_<

[...] algún momento se decidirán a utilizarlo en los móviles para el gran público (hoy hemos tenido insinuación de que lo harían en 2012 y posterior desmentido a medias. Esto va a enturbiar su relación con la [...]

[...] key quote goes as follows: … Whilst the N900 was acknowledged to be a ‘bridge’ device firmly aimed [...]

[...] di tutta la futura N-Series alla nuova piattaforma operativa Maemo. A rivlearlo è il sito “thereallymobileproject” che ha riportato quanto dichiarato da Tanja Sauvola, Product Marketing Manager di Nokia, [...]

[...] algún momento se decidirán a utilizarlo en los móviles para el gran público (hoy hemos tenido insinuación de que lo harían en 2012 y posterior desmentido a medias. Esto va a enturbiar su relación con la [...]

[...] And now, at the official N900 meet-up in London, Nokia has pretty much admitted it. Nokia’s NSeries devices – i.e. most of their high-end smartphones – will all be powered by Linux-based Maemo by 2012. [...]

And how is symbian being thrown on to a corner with the on coming of Maemo , New Phones of the N Series will be coming out and the symbian V5 version which is the latest will be worked on

And how is symbian being thrown on to a corner with the on coming of Maemo , New Phones of the N Series will be coming out and the symbian V5 version which is the latest will be worked on

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Compare S60 to Android, or perhaps even iPhone’s OS. There is very little room for innovation. And besides, internally, within Nokia, Symbian is referred as shit for some odd reason. I think it makes sense for Nokia to try and see the Market response on Maemo-based phones and NSeries sounds like an ideal test ground!

I guess, you need to scroll back up and read the post over (and over, and over over) again. No offense meant!

[...] The S60 5th edition OS (as used on the N97 and N97 mini) might be mature, but it’s pretty damn woeful. Maemo 5 (used by the N900) definitely has a better user experience, and though it’s not perfect either, it’s definitely headed in the right direction. Speaking of which, Nokia’s next OS, Maemo 6, could look like this. [The Reality Mobile Project] [...]

[...] operativsystem kalt Maemo, som man bl.a. finner på splitter nye Nokia N900. Eksterne lenker: The Really Mobile Project, Mobile Phone [...]

[...] Dumping Symbian as the OS for N-Series Phones? If what bloggers heard from Maemo marketing team at yesterday’s N900 meet-up at London is true, we’ll see Linux-based [...]

[...] Nokia Br, Rodrigo Toledo, The Really Mobile Project Tags: Maemo, Nokia, symbian Share this post! Twitter Digg Facebook Delicious StumbleUpon [...]

[...] operativsystem kalt Maemo, som man bl.a. finner på splitter nye Nokia N900. Eksterne lenker: The Really Mobile Project, Mobile Phone [...]

[...] ??: ???? ?? Nokia ??????????Maemo ??? N ?????????????????? OS ????? Symbian S60 ????????????????????????? The Really Mobile Project ? Nokia ????????????????????????????????????????????Nokia ?????????????? N900 ??? Maemo 5 ?????????????????????? OS ??????????????????????????? Symbian S60 ????? OS ????????App????? Maemo ??????? Maemo ??????????????????????? Nokia ????????? Symbian S60 ? N ????????????? Maemo OS ?????????? 2012 ???? OS ?????? [Thanks, Sockatume][????]???? | ????? | ????? | ?? [...]

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That’s the reason Nokia is porting Qt to symbian and migrating maemo to Qt entirely. Using Qt, developers should not worry too much about the underlying platform. As a bonus, Qt is a really nice library to work with.

Wow. Supporting two distinct OS's seems like a heroic undertaking, even for Nokia. It's not just the engineering resources consumed by the twin efforts, but also the confusion it creates in the developer community, among potential customers and carriers, and internally.It seems odd that Nokia doesn't just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications–which has become the basis upon which people are selecting handsets–and address the huge Symbian diversity issues that have made Ovi so hard to pull off.

Wow. Supporting two distinct OS's seems like a heroic undertaking, even for Nokia. It's not just the engineering resources consumed by the twin efforts, but also the confusion it creates in the developer community, among potential customers and carriers, and internally.

It seems odd that Nokia doesn't just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications–which has become the basis upon which people are selecting handsets–and address the huge Symbian diversity issues that have made Ovi so hard to pull off.

[...] was purportedly leaked by a Nokia maemo marketing team member.  It was initially reported by the reallymobileproject website, but strangely there has been no update on this matter, even after the nokiablog website published [...]

[...] algún momento se decidirán a utilizarlo en los móviles para el gran público (hoy hemos tenido insinuación de que lo harían en 2012 y posterior desmentido a medias. Esto va a enturbiar su relación con la [...]

[...] http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/11/nokia-dropping-symbian-from-n-series-by-2012/ a few seconds ago from Yatca [...]

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[...] @sandersch Nokia abandoning S60 for #Maemo on future N-Series devices? http://tinyurl.com/maemoSeries #Linux Tags: fresh, [...]

[...] Nokia dropping Symbian from N-Series by 2012 (The Really Mobile [...]

[...] Mobile Project reports that he was told by some Nokia marketing folks from the Maemo team that Nokia will drop the Symbian OS from its N-Series devices by 2012. Apparently all N-Series devices from that point will use the Maemo Linux OS (like the new N900 [...]

Compare S60 to Android, or perhaps even iPhone's OS. There is very little room for innovation. And besides, internally, within Nokia, Symbian is referred as shit for some odd reason. I think it makes sense for Nokia to try and see the Market response on Maemo-based phones and NSeries sounds like an ideal test ground!

Compare S60 to Android, or perhaps even iPhone's OS. There is very little room for innovation. And besides, internally, within Nokia, Symbian is referred as shit for some odd reason. I think it makes sense for Nokia to try and see the Market response on Maemo-based phones and NSeries sounds like an ideal test ground!

I guess, you need to scroll back up and read the post over (and over, and over over) again. No offense meant!

I guess, you need to scroll back up and read the post over (and over, and over over) again. No offense meant!

[...] le site thereallymobileproject.com, relayé ce mercredi par SymbianFrance, une annonce à la fois étonnante et logique a surgi : [...]

[...] Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments [...]

[...] dropping Symbian from N-Series by 2012: the END of Symbian http://bit.ly/4kstwz Tags: fresh, [...]

[...] According to one report, Nokia said that by 2012, Maemo will have fully replaced Symbian as the operating system powering its top-end N-series devices. The N900, according to this report, marks the beginning of this transition because it is targeted at the enthusiast and developer crowd who will grow the Maemo ecosystem before it starts being marketed to the mainstream consumer. By then, Symbian will then be relegated to the mass market E- and X-Series devices. [...]

[...] ?? ????? N900. ?????, ?????, ?????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ?????? ??? [...]

That's the reason Nokia is porting Qt to symbian and migrating maemo to Qt entirely. Using Qt, developers should not worry too much about the underlying platform. As a bonus, Qt is a really nice library to work with.

That's the reason Nokia is porting Qt to symbian and migrating maemo to Qt entirely. Using Qt, developers should not worry too much about the underlying platform. As a bonus, Qt is a really nice library to work with.

[...] Apparently Nokia is dropping Symbian from N-Series by 2012 | feels like an unofficial announcement. … Also noted on PCWorld a Product Marketing Manager for Nokia appears to have let slip that 2012 is the last iteration of the N-Series based on Symbian. I'm frankly surprised it is going to take that long. Yes product cycles are longer than we think although the N900 should be followed up with at least a more effective touch only device and thinner etc much more quickly. IMHO. Consumers will quickly learn that the top end phones won't carry Symbian anymore. That suggests limited growth, little chance of real software upgrades etc. I like the direction Maemo is headed. I still want an N900 and I believe there's a positioning opportunity. Nokia's "job" is to bring the billion+ symbian phones and users into the computer age without ever having a PC. I think the cost of large screen touch devices is also going to drop far faster than expected based on a straight line plot. (tags: maemo nokia nseries symbian mobile n900) [...]

[...] Genom Engadget och The real mobile project [...]

[...] Read [...]

[...] that Nokia plan to drop Symbian from the u2018top endu2019 N-Series in favour of Maemo." http://bit.ly/hellomaemo Tags: fresh, [...]

[...] ??: ???? ?? Nokia ??????????Maemo ??? N ?????????????????? OS ????? Symbian S60 ????????????????????????? The Really Mobile Project ? Nokia ????????????????????????????????????????????Nokia ?????????????? N900 ??? Maemo 5 ?????????????????????? OS ??????????????????????????? Symbian S60 ????? OS ????????App????? Maemo ??????? Maemo ??????????????????????? Nokia ????????? Symbian S60 ? N ????????????? Maemo OS ?????????? 2012 ???? OS ?????? [Thanks, Sockatume][????]???? | ????? | ????? | ?? [...]

[...] phones will run Maemo!  This is great news for all the Maemo fans out there.  And it looks like this will be happen in 2012.  So all you who follow the Mayan calendar, while be able to ring in the new Mayan calendar cycle [...]

[...] [Za: The Really Mobile Project] [...]

[...] to drop Symbian The Really Mobile Project Blog Archive Nokia dropping Symbian from N-Series by 2012 [UPDATED] As good as Symbian has been, I’ve not seen them come up with a quality touchscreen interface yet [...]

[...] and backed the Linux-based Maemo operating system as it’s high end OS of the future. According to The Really Mobile Project, Tanja Sauvola from the Maemo marketing team informed bloggers in London that as of 2012, Maemo [...]

[...] Read | Permalink | Email this | Comments [...]

[...] mit dem auf Linux basierenden Betriebssystem Maemo ausstatten. Das berichtet zumindest der Blog “The Really Mobile Project” unter Berufung auf eine Marketing-Mitarbeiterin des [...]

[...] El anuncio fue realizado por Tanja Sauvola, del equipo de marketing de Maemo durante un encuentro de presentación del nuevo terminal de Nokia N900. “La transición será gradual teniendo en cuenta que hay teléfonos de la serie N en desarrollo todavía con Symbian”, declaró Sauvola en una información publicada por el blog ‘The Really Mobile Project’. [...]

[...] had a N900 meetup in London and some executive from the marketing team blurted out that Nokia will drop Symbian from Nseries devices by 2012, which was later debunked by the Finnish [...]

[...] : “http%3A%2F%2Fophir.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F11%2F19%2Fnokia-will-drop-symbian%2F” } Not a big  surprise for readers of my previous appliances vs software posts . Developing code for Symbian kernel was [...]

[...] here: The Really Mobile Project » Blog Archive » Nokia dropping Symbian … var addthis_pub = ”; var addthis_language = ‘en’;var addthis_options = ‘email, favorites, digg, [...]

[...] Source: http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/11/nokia-dropping-symbian-from-n-series-by-2012/ [...]

[...] sondern mit dem auf Linux basierenden Betriebssystem Maemo ausstatten. Das berichtete der Blog The Really Mobile Project unter Berufung auf eine Marketing-Mitarbeiterin des [...]

[...] ? ??????? ??????? ???????? ff8 ??? Maemo, ? ???????? ?????????? ????? ?? ?????? ? ?????????? N-????? ???????????? ??????? [...]

[...] http://thereallymobileproject.com/2009/11/nokia-dropping-symbian-from-n-series-by-2012/ a few seconds ago from xmpp [...]

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[...] un lietojam?k? oper?t?jsist?ma. Un v?l vair?k manu sirdi silda fakts, ka turpm?k tieši Maemo tiks uzst?d?ta uz jaunajiem Nokia N s?rijas t?lru?iem, kam?r Symbian p?rzi?? paliks X un E s?rijas Nokia telefoni. Ir p?r?k maz skaidr?bas cik [...]

Actually Eclipse has had plugins for maemo development for ages (ESBox etc.). Basically use whatever IDE you want (I prefer Eclipse, not vi! ), compile your binary and just scp it to the device (The eclipse plugins do that automatically for you and also support on-device debugging). Remember that the devices like N900 are not smartphones – they are computers 1st and then phone (though the phone quality is pretty darn good – I was surprised).

The setup for the maemo environment was much easier than Xcode/iphone environment – atleast personally.

“It seems odd that Nokia doesn’t just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications”Seriously, do you have any idea about the market penetration of Symbian? S60 is due for a demotion, not Symbian. Going to Android will be a dumb move for Nokia who currently owns the market. Why?Technology-wise Android offers nothing new. Fragmentation-wise, Android is already showing signs of fragmentation, which is bad news for Android apps down the road (as you mentioned Symbian has been there hence, current focus in Symbian on unifying everything thru a UI framework like Qt). Differentiation-wise Android is a bad choice since what we are currently seeing is a host of devices on Android from multiple manufacturers but no key differentiators to sway users to one device or another – everything is Google oriented. Going forward this will be an major issue. OTOH Nokia has a competitor to Android (in terms of UI, apps etc.) which is Maemo. It is a key differentiator which will set Nokia devices apart from Android clones (I am not including any of the new UI frameworks on Symbian coz they are not public). Functionality-wise under the hood both Symbian and Maemo are better currently. All-in-all none of the key requirements for a smartphone platform are met by Android in context of Nokia. Sure, Android is great for other manufacturers who dont have their software/appstore/platform eco-systems (which is where Google is smart about how it set up the OHA) but Nokia is not one of those since they own the entire pipeline right now, from hw, sw, manufacturing to distribution and are the dominant player in the game.Nokia gains absolutely nothing by using Android.

[...] Seite thereallymobileproject.com berichtete, das Nokia gegenüber Maemo Entwicklern ankündigte, das Symbian Betriebssystem bis 2012 [...]

[...] http://bit.ly/4AMByH No more Symbian for Nokia N Series… Maemo instead. Tags: fresh, twitter [...]

Actually Eclipse has had plugins for maemo development for ages (ESBox etc.). Basically use whatever IDE you want (I prefer Eclipse, not vi! ), compile your binary and just scp it to the device (The eclipse plugins do that automatically for you and also support on-device debugging). Remember that the devices like N900 are not smartphones – they are computers 1st and then phone (though the phone quality is pretty darn good – I was surprised).The setup for the maemo environment was much easier than Xcode/iphone environment – atleast personally.

Actually Eclipse has had plugins for maemo development for ages (ESBox etc.). Basically use whatever IDE you want (I prefer Eclipse, not vi! ), compile your binary and just scp it to the device (The eclipse plugins do that automatically for you and also support on-device debugging). Remember that the devices like N900 are not smartphones – they are computers 1st and then phone (though the phone quality is pretty darn good – I was surprised).

The setup for the maemo environment was much easier than Xcode/iphone environment – atleast personally.

“It seems odd that Nokia doesn't just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications”Seriously, do you have any idea about the market penetration of Symbian? S60 is due for a demotion, not Symbian. Going to Android will be a dumb move for Nokia who currently owns the market. Why?Technology-wise Android offers nothing new. Fragmentation-wise, Android is already showing signs of fragmentation, which is bad news for Android apps down the road (as you mentioned Symbian has been there). Differentiation-wise Android is a bad choice since what we are currently seeing is a host of devices on Android from multiple manufacturers but no key differentiators to sway users to one device or another – everything is Google oriented. Going forward this will be an major issue. OTOH Nokia has a competitor to Android (in terms of UI, apps etc.) which is Maemo. It is a key differentiator which will set Nokia devices apart from Android clones (I am not including any of the new UI frameworks on Symbian coz they are not public). Functionality-wise under the hood both Symbian and Maemo are better currently. All-in-all none of the key requirements for a smartphone platform are met by Android in context of Nokia. Sure, Android is great for other manufacturers who dont have their software/appstore/platform eco-systems (which is where Google is smart about how it set up the OHA) but Nokia is not one of those since they own the entire pipeline right now, from hw, sw, manufacturing to distribution and are the dominant player in the game.Nokia gains absolutely nothing by using Android.

“It seems odd that Nokia doesn't just declare that they will standardize on Android. It would save them a ton of money, and give them access to applications”

Seriously, do you have any idea about the market penetration of Symbian? S60 is due for a demotion, not Symbian. Going to Android will be a dumb move for Nokia who currently owns the market. Why?

Technology-wise Android offers nothing new. Fragmentation-wise, Android is already showing signs of fragmentation, which is bad news for Android apps down the road (as you mentioned Symbian has been there). Differentiation-wise Android is a bad choice since what we are currently seeing is a host of devices on Android from multiple manufacturers but no key differentiators to sway users to one device or another – everything is Google oriented. Going forward this will be an major issue. OTOH Nokia has a competitor to Android (in terms of UI, apps etc.) which is Maemo. It is a key differentiator which will set Nokia devices apart from Android clones (I am not including any of the new UI frameworks on Symbian coz they are not public). Functionality-wise under the hood both Symbian and Maemo are better currently. All-in-all none of the key requirements for a smartphone platform are met by Android in context of Nokia. Sure, Android is great for other manufacturers who dont have their software/appstore/platform eco-systems (which is where Google is smart about how it set up the OHA) but Nokia is not one of those since they own the entire pipeline right now, from hw, sw, manufacturing to distribution and are the dominant player in the game.

Nokia gains absolutely nothing by using Android.

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia’s lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2236525

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia’s lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2236525

[...] : The Really Mobile Project Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in [...]

Spot on… The news here isn’t that ‘Symbian is bad’ it’s that Nokia sees N-Series as something beyond smartphones and has developed something appropriate to support that ambition… They’ve been referring to devices like the N97 as ‘computers’ for some time now, but that’s been a very generous description. With Maemo it feels more accurate.

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia's lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2…

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia's lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2…

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia's lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2…

Nokia will abandon Symbian for all its Nseries services by 2012, the company said at a launch event for the N900. The Maemo-based smartphone is the only one of its type in Nokia's lineup so far, but the company plans to gradually phase out Symbian S60 on all its Nseries devices over time.
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2…

[...] would drop Symbian from its smartphones in 2010 in favour of its new, home-brew bada OS. Then Nokia said it would drop Symbian (albeit not immediately) from its flagship N-series devices replacing it with [...]

Spot on… The news here isn't that 'Symbian is bad' it's that Nokia sees N-Series as something beyond smartphones and has developed something appropriate to support that ambition… They've been referring to devices like the N97 as 'computers' for some time now, but that's been a very generous description. With Maemo it feels more accurate.

Spot on… The news here isn't that 'Symbian is bad' it's that Nokia sees N-Series as something beyond smartphones and has developed something appropriate to support that ambition… They've been referring to devices like the N97 as 'computers' for some time now, but that's been a very generous description. With Maemo it feels more accurate.

I think Google (the IT company) and Whitehall (the bureaucracy) use the word “open” in much the same way. The end users of both organisations trust Google’s definition of “open systems” in the same way as Whitehall’s “open government”. I am happy to use both but I would read the fine print with scepticism (and a lawyer) before signing up to be in business jointly with either.

@applfan

I completely agree with the facts that you cite. Unfortunately for Nokia, these facts are becoming less important, because the basis of competition in mobile has shifted from Nokia’s strengths in manufacturing (lower cost) and industrial design, to the availability of third party apps.

Ovi represents a laudable effort to try to enable third party apps, but this doesn’t appear to be an effort that is going to be successful. Going to Maemo doesn’t directly solve the lack of apps problem in the short term, and by the time it could do so, they would be hopelessly far behind iPhone and Android.

iPhone is clearly winning the apps game so far, but it doesn’t seem likely that Nokia could get access to that OS (it would be an incredibly smart thing for Apple to do, but completely out of character for that company). Also, many have argued (and I agree) that the Android open approach is more likely to succeed in the fullness of time than the iPhone closed approach.

So, it would seem that Nokia’s best opportunity is to back Android.

You can read my blog posting on the subject, or just flame me here
http://verploeg.com/PocketWatch/?p=145

[...] The OS is always greener… November 20th, 2009 | Author: admin In a report from a developer meeting, Nokia officials said they’re moving to Maemo Linux as the OS for their high-end smartphones. That resulted in an entertaining little obituary in the Register by Andrew Orlowski (link). But then later in the day Nokia clarified that “we remain firmly committed to Symbian as our smartphone platform of choice” (link). That in turn led to a lively online debate about what Nokia actually said, and the challenges that Finnish people face when speaking English (check the comments here). [...]

I think Google (the IT company) and Whitehall (the bureaucracy) use the word “open” in much the same way. The end users of both organisations trust Google's definition of “open systems” in the same way as Whitehall's “open government”. I am happy to use both but I would read the fine print with scepticism (and a lawyer) before signing up to be in business jointly with either.

I think Google (the IT company) and Whitehall (the bureaucracy) use the word “open” in much the same way. The end users of both organisations trust Google's definition of “open systems” in the same way as Whitehall's “open government”. I am happy to use both but I would read the fine print with scepticism (and a lawyer) before signing up to be in business jointly with either.

@applfanI completely agree with the facts that you cite. Unfortunately for Nokia, these facts are becoming less important, because the basis of competition in mobile has shifted from Nokia's strengths in manufacturing (lower cost) and industrial design, to the availability of third party apps. Ovi represents a laudable effort to try to enable third party apps, but this doesn't appear to be an effort that is going to be successful. Going to Maemo doesn't directly solve the lack of apps problem in the short term, and by the time it could do so, they would be hopelessly far behind iPhone and Android.iPhone is clearly winning the apps game so far, but it doesn't seem likely that Nokia could get access to that OS (it would be an incredibly smart thing for Apple to do, but completely out of character for that company). Also, many have argued (and I agree) that the Android open approach is more likely to succeed in the fullness of time than the iPhone closed approach. So, it would seem that Nokia's best opportunity is to back Android.You can read my blog posting on the subject, or just flame me here http://verploeg.com/PocketWatch/?p=145

@applfan

I completely agree with the facts that you cite. Unfortunately for Nokia, these facts are becoming less important, because the basis of competition in mobile has shifted from Nokia's strengths in manufacturing (lower cost) and industrial design, to the availability of third party apps.

Ovi represents a laudable effort to try to enable third party apps, but this doesn't appear to be an effort that is going to be successful. Going to Maemo doesn't directly solve the lack of apps problem in the short term, and by the time it could do so, they would be hopelessly far behind iPhone and Android.

iPhone is clearly winning the apps game so far, but it doesn't seem likely that Nokia could get access to that OS (it would be an incredibly smart thing for Apple to do, but completely out of character for that company). Also, many have argued (and I agree) that the Android open approach is more likely to succeed in the fullness of time than the iPhone closed approach.

So, it would seem that Nokia's best opportunity is to back Android.

You can read my blog posting on the subject, or just flame me here
http://verploeg.com/PocketWatch/?p=145

[...] admitted it. Nokia’s NSeries devices – i.e. most of their high-end smartphones – will all be powered by Linux-based Maemo by 2012.While this doesn’t mean that Symbian is going away completely, it’s a major focus shift from a [...]

[...] have. Ben Smith from The Really Mobile Project wrote that the team revealed on Wednesday that Nokia plans to drop Symbian from the Nseries line of devices in favour of Maemo by 2012. I’ve reached out to Nokia for [...]

[...] their decision to dump NGage mobile gaming platform, they announced last week that Nokia N Series will cease to come out with Symbian OS. Maybe Nokia will concentrate [...]

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[...] El anuncio fue realizado por Tanja Sauvola, del equipo de marketing de Maemo durante un encuentro de presentación del nuevo terminal de Nokia N900. “La transición será gradual teniendo en cuenta que hay teléfonos de la serie N en desarrollo todavía con Symbian”, declaró Sauvola en una información publicada por el blog ‘The Really Mobile Project’. [...]

[...] El anuncio fue realizado por Tanja Sauvola, del equipo de marketing de Maemo durante un encuentro de presentación del nuevo terminal de Nokia N900. “La transición será gradual teniendo en cuenta que hay teléfonos de la serie N en desarrollo todavía con Symbian”, declaró Sauvola en una información publicada por el blog ‘The Really Mobile Project’. [...]

[...] that by 2012 its legacy Symbian operating system would be gone from the high-end N-family devices, The Really Mobile Project blog [...]

[...] in favour of Maemo for their high end devices by the year 2012. Ben Smith mentions this in his post. That’s where it first appeared and has been picked up by [...]

[...] The real mobile blog Project reported that this will be a slow process but by 2012 Symbian will see an untimely death from Nokia’s phones N and E series phones. The world biggest phone maker will start moving on to its new OS that was recently released on the N900. Maemo5 is a huge improvement over the current Nokia Symbian OS and it is a smart move going there instead of fight it out with old Symbian, but there has only one problem though, maemo5 still does not cut it. This new OS is really nice from its seamless task switching abilities to its incredible web browsing, the OS has it all, except one of the most required section of any mobile OS to successes in this days market, an app store and a developing team behind it. [...]

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[...] night in London there was an official Nokia N900 meetup. Several members from The Really Mobile Project were in attendance and have learned, from Maemo’s Marketing Team, that by 2012 there will no [...]

[...] And now, at the official N900 meet-up in London, Nokia has pretty much admitted it. Nokia’s NSeries devices – i.e. most of their high-end smartphones – will all be powered by Linux-based Maemo by 2012. [...]

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Compare S60 to Android, or perhaps even iPhone’s OS. There is very little room for innovation. And besides, internally, within Nokia, Symbian is referred as shit for some odd reason. I think it makes sense for Nokia to try and see the Market response on Maemo-based phones and NSeries sounds like an ideal test ground!

Compare S60 to Android, or perhaps even iPhone's OS. There is very little room for innovation. And besides, internally, within Nokia, Symbian is referred as shit for some odd reason. I think it makes sense for Nokia to try and see the Market response on Maemo-based phones and NSeries sounds like an ideal test ground!

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[...] The TheReallyMobileProject people were in one of the N900 meet-up official in Londrés and obtained a dumbfounded information (if it is confirmed) since the team of marketing of Maemo revealed to them that Nokia plans to leave Symbian aside in all the Nseries and to spend them to Maemo for 2012. According to this source, the transition will be still gradual with several Nseries based on Symbian on development but without doubts Nokia N900 it is the device that works like “bridge“ on having generated the enthusiasm of the community and of the developers. The following devices, as we had already listened, they would point to receive to the massive market and the mobiles with Maemo are going to grow up to filling all the cell phones of high scale of Nokia for 2012. On the other hand, there are no plans of including Maemo either in new XSeries or in the ESeries but without doubts Nokia it was surprised for the expectation that they generated with the N900 so the Maemo expansion is out of discussion. Maemo Select, the portal that assembles the applications of the platform, initially will run separated from Ovi Store, and it would be for be throwing for the N900 next month by means of a software update. Nevertheless, in the long term they have planned to withdraw it leaving only Ovi Store as the official place for applications free and pays promoted in the devices Symbian and Maemo. And although there were several rumors on the future of Symbian and Maemo, it seems that Nokia wants to support both, generating hardware of development that work for both. (cc) Mauro for Celularis, 2009. | direct Link | 2 comments | it Send to del.icio.us Tags: maemo, Nokia, nseries maemo, Symbian-S60 Posted by Stanley A. Weeks at 03:21 [...]

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[...] been pretty obvious to me for a while now that Maemo represents Nokia’s software future with respect to smartphones, although I suspect Symbian has a long continued life ahead of it with low-end and mainstream [...]

[...] As we reported back in November, it does look like they will be dropping Symbian from N-Series [...]