Dear Robert Scoble, No. Sorry.

Typical of ‘them’ really. I am with you guys on this issue.

Let’s all rush to Boston and chuck some burgers in the river…!

No wait… this was supposed to be a calmer look at the facts.

Damn it…

Typical megalomaniac attitude from our US brethren, they are Eons behind Europe and especially Asia in nearly all aspects of mobile technology.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/27/magazines/fortune/future_tech_stocks.fortune/index.htm?section=money_technology
A huge percentage of yanks are still utilising two baked bean tins connected by a bit of wet string, Analogue networks in the US were only phased out last year, they stopped selling analogue phones here in 1997!
The US leads the world in hype and bullshit and that’s about it

Europe is still the home of mobile tech birthing process. But nokia is the 900 pound retarded gorilla. s60 ? what a hunk of ****. Hope the new symbian os gets some traction some year soon, before android, igroan, and palm (ha), walks over them. Have u seen what they carry in the
states, razor? USA generally speaking is where mobile tech goes to die. I have Chinese farmers carrying better mobile phones then your average north american. But I do agree with one thing, most Normal Mobile Users talk/text and not a hell of a lot more. Iphone/android/(pre) are changing that by being easy, useful, and dead sexy devices to use/deploy/and program for.

I’m off to introduce my yankey friend the my favorite chinese farmer. rice anyone?

don’t feed the trolls

its just a deliberate ‘look at me’ polemic piece to a blog

ignore

fertilizer

Funny, I just gave a speech to a bunch of entrepreneurs and computer scientists at Cambridge University and 30% had iPhones and no one argued with me that the iPhone is kicking Nokia’s behind. Nokia didn’t argue, either, when we visited their research lab today.

It’s not Nokia v Apple where I disagree with you… It’s that Nokia represents Europe’s best and only hope of leading the mobile industry. You’re picking on the fat, slow kid in the class

Thanks for reading and commenting.

So you use iphone ownership as a barometer of US superiority and dominance in the global mobile market, It’s not Nokia you should be concerning yourself with, more like Samsung and LG IMO
Americans are hugely patriotic when it comes to buying anything, i think Apple market share is something in the order of 2% amongst the more discerning Brits

markwebster: I’ve been coming to Europe for 15 years and Europe always shoved their cool phones in my face. No longer. Now all the cool kids have iPhones or Android phones. That is a HUGE change. Plus, worse of all, the coolest developers (and I was hanging out with lots of them this week) are building for iPhone and/or Android and not a single one is building for Nokia. That’s a huge problem for Nokia, which used to have the mindshare and leadership positions in the mobile world. And my point was that Europe doesn’t matter anymore. You’re helping me make that point when you bring up Samsung and other Asian phones.

With the exception of the iPhone kicking Nokia’s arse, those comments are just plain wrong IMO. But it is one person’s opinion against another. I think in the main though, most people would not agree with Robert Scoble on this issue.

The tech elite and the plain geeks are a very small proportion of the population. Their use of mobile’s does not extend to the general public who make up the vast majority of the market share.

From my visits to the America and Europe, and from the podcasts I hear, I conclude that the average American is in the mobile stone-age compared to the average UK or European mobile user.

Well, Europe matters less (Nokia) that’s for sure, but the US still has some way to go in order to obliterate the HW dominance that still exists in the Asian manufacturers units.
There is a seed change going on as regards the importance of apps in respect of the purchasing public, but you cannot take the market situation in the US and use it as a template to measure market conditions in other continents because they vary to a great degree.

I think your point is that *one* European phone manufacturer has slipped a bit in some respects. Not sure that equates to all of Europe being irrelevant.

…and Android is far from a US-only endeavour.

The vast majority of the population in the US does not own a smart phone. Most people buy phones because they look cute or their keypad lights up in pretty colors. Up until a couple of years ago, there was limited choice in what you could get from the network providers, as most phones here are locked to their networks.

Yes, the iPhone has introduced many people to a robust mobile experience. But it has also introduced them to terms like “jailbreak” as they hate the restrictive and expensive plans forced on the by AT&T, not to mention the restrictions of where they can get their apps from.

But that’s all most have known in the US – what they were told. From my own personal experience, even the most novice, non-technical mobile phone owner uses SMS, MMS and wonders why Americans have to throw out a phone when they switch providers.

Interesting how there has been no mention about Motorola, whose last innovative device was the StarTac.

mp/m

I believe it’s about 20% of phone sales in the US are smartphones. I can’t find a no for Europe to hand.

“Now all the cool kids have iPhones”… and “the coolest developers”… wtf?

Ten years ago you were lucky to get a 3rd-gen behind wap-phone in New York. Granted, the iPhone as dragged the US kicking-and-screaming into the 21st century, and is a brilliant device, but still…

Kind of like… you get your license and turn up at work with your brand-new sports car, and give it “I rule! I can drive anywhere!”. At which point your friends, who have been driving for ten years, shake their heads and say “whatever… nice car though”

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=83672&highlight=smartphone+sales

it’s a novelty thing, it will wear off in a couple of years and then it will be just another device that annoys you when it rings in the shower

Thanks Mark – had seen those, but was just looking for pure stats on %age of smartphones bought by US consumers v European consumers etc etc

Scoble just got chumpamatized.

*adds to his CV*

Great stuff Ben. I was going to write a post saying pretty much the same
thing but you’ve summed it up perfectly here. Europe is not Nokia. Also, Scoble seems to switch between talking about Europe’s mobile industry and Europe’s
mobile users throughout his post. It came across as quite a confused post to me…

Typical of 'them' really. I am with you guys on this issue.

Typical of 'them' really. I am with you guys on this issue.

Let's all rush to Boston and chuck some burgers in the river…!No wait… this was supposed to be a calmer look at the facts.Damn it…

Let's all rush to Boston and chuck some burgers in the river…!

No wait… this was supposed to be a calmer look at the facts.

Damn it…

Christ, as a company trying to launch our mobile platforms in the US, I would say in terms of mobile billing & infrastructure etc they are where we were 4 years ago.

I love the iPhone but its not a guaranteed way to monetise the mobile web. End of!

Typical megalomaniac attitude from our US brethren, they are Eons behind Europe and especially Asia in nearly all aspects of mobile technology.http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/27/magazines/fortu…A huge percentage of yanks are still utilising two baked bean tins connected by a bit of wet string, Analogue networks in the US were only phased out last year, they stopped selling analogue phones here in 1997!The US leads the world in hype and bullshit and that's about it

Typical megalomaniac attitude from our US brethren, they are Eons behind Europe and especially Asia in nearly all aspects of mobile technology.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/27/magazines/fortu…
A huge percentage of yanks are still utilising two baked bean tins connected by a bit of wet string, Analogue networks in the US were only phased out last year, they stopped selling analogue phones here in 1997!
The US leads the world in hype and bullshit and that's about it

Europe is still the home of mobile tech birthing process. But nokia is the 900 pound retarded gorilla. s60 ? what a hunk of ****. Hope the new symbian os gets some traction some year soon, before android, igroan, and palm (ha), walks over them. Have u seen what they carry in thestates, razor? USA generally speaking is where mobile tech goes to die. I have Chinese farmers carrying better mobile phones then your average north american. But I do agree with one thing, most Normal Mobile Users talk/text and not a hell of a lot more. Iphone/android/(pre) are changing that by being easy, useful, and dead sexy devices to use/deploy/and program for. I'm off to introduce my yankey friend the my favorite chinese farmer. rice anyone?

Europe is still the home of mobile tech birthing process. But nokia is the 900 pound retarded gorilla. s60 ? what a hunk of ****. Hope the new symbian os gets some traction some year soon, before android, igroan, and palm (ha), walks over them. Have u seen what they carry in the
states, razor? USA generally speaking is where mobile tech goes to die. I have Chinese farmers carrying better mobile phones then your average north american. But I do agree with one thing, most Normal Mobile Users talk/text and not a hell of a lot more. Iphone/android/(pre) are changing that by being easy, useful, and dead sexy devices to use/deploy/and program for.

I'm off to introduce my yankey friend the my favorite chinese farmer. rice anyone?

don't feed the trollsits just a deliberate look at me polemic piece to a blog of someone thats doen nothing.ignore.fertilizer

don't feed the trolls

its just a deliberate look at me polemic piece to a blog of someone thats doen nothing.

ignore.

fertilizer

All aboard the tenuous link bus…

Android is based on the Linux kernel which was started by a man in Finland and maintained by a man with a beard in Wales. It’s also heavily based around Java which was invented by a Canadian. All Android hardware available so far has, as Ben mentioned, been designed and built by HTC in Taiwan.

The iPhone is famously designed by Apple in Cupertino and built in China (presumably by underpaid workers). The principal designer of the iPhone is Jonathan Ive who comes from Chingford which is on the border of London and Essex, about 5 miles away from Chigwell which was the location for the 1980′s BBC Sitcom “Birds of a Feather” which was about two wives of robbers currently serving a sentence in prison and has absolutely nothing to do with mobile phones but it served as the acme of british humour of the period, much the same way Dad’s Army did in the decades preceeding it… what did America have? M*A*S*H? Pfft remind me what the outcome of Vietnam was again?… speaking of war, it wasn’t so long ago that the American’s fought for their independence from the British and there are many people who believe that this independence should be revoked poste-haste… especially if American’s are going to continue to prattle on about how much better the US of A is when they feel they have even the slightest advantage… there is such a thing as a sore winner you know!

(This post is, of course, meant in jest. I love our colonial cousins and the contributions they have made to my waistline… cheeseburgers and V8 engines FTW… oh wait, the V8 is a French invention)

Funny, I just gave a speech to a bunch of entrepreneurs and computer scientists at Cambridge University and 30% had iPhones and no one argued with me that the iPhone is kicking Nokia's behind. Nokia didn't argue, either, when we visited their research lab today.

Funny, I just gave a speech to a bunch of entrepreneurs and computer scientists at Cambridge University and 30% had iPhones and no one argued with me that the iPhone is kicking Nokia's behind. Nokia didn't argue, either, when we visited their research lab today.

It's not Nokia v Apple where I disagree with you… It's that Nokia represents Europe's best and only hope of leading the mobile industry. You're picking on the fat, slow kid in the class Thanks for reading and commenting.

It's not Nokia v Apple where I disagree with you… It's that Nokia represents Europe's best and only hope of leading the mobile industry. You're picking on the fat, slow kid in the class

Thanks for reading and commenting.

So you use iphone ownership as a barometer of US superiority and dominance in the global mobile market, It's not Nokia you should be concerning yourself with, more like Samsung and LG IMO Americans are hugely patriotic when it comes to buying anything, i think Apple market share is something in the order of 2% amongst the more discerning Brits

So you use iphone ownership as a barometer of US superiority and dominance in the global mobile market, It's not Nokia you should be concerning yourself with, more like Samsung and LG IMO
Americans are hugely patriotic when it comes to buying anything, i think Apple market share is something in the order of 2% amongst the more discerning Brits

markwebster: I've been coming to Europe for 15 years and Europe always shoved their cool phones in my face. No longer. Now all the cool kids have iPhones or Android phones. That is a HUGE change. Plus, worse of all, the coolest developers (and I was hanging out with lots of them this week) are building for iPhone and/or Android and not a single one is building for Nokia. That's a huge problem for Nokia, which used to have the mindshare and leadership positions in the mobile world. And my point was that Europe doesn't matter anymore. You're helping me make that point when you bring up Samsung and other Asian phones.

markwebster: I've been coming to Europe for 15 years and Europe always shoved their cool phones in my face. No longer. Now all the cool kids have iPhones or Android phones. That is a HUGE change. Plus, worse of all, the coolest developers (and I was hanging out with lots of them this week) are building for iPhone and/or Android and not a single one is building for Nokia. That's a huge problem for Nokia, which used to have the mindshare and leadership positions in the mobile world. And my point was that Europe doesn't matter anymore. You're helping me make that point when you bring up Samsung and other Asian phones.

With the exception of the iPhone kicking Nokia's arse, those comments are just plain wrong IMO. But it is one person's opinion against another. I think in the main though, most people would not agree with Robert Scoble on this issue.The tech elite and the plain geeks are a very small proportion of the population. Their use of mobile's does not extend to the general public who make up the vast majority of the market share.From my visits to the America and Europe, and from the podcasts I hear, I conclude that the average American is in the mobile stone-age compared to the average UK or European mobile user.

With the exception of the iPhone kicking Nokia's arse, those comments are just plain wrong IMO. But it is one person's opinion against another. I think in the main though, most people would not agree with Robert Scoble on this issue.

The tech elite and the plain geeks are a very small proportion of the population. Their use of mobile's does not extend to the general public who make up the vast majority of the market share.

From my visits to the America and Europe, and from the podcasts I hear, I conclude that the average American is in the mobile stone-age compared to the average UK or European mobile user.

Well, Europe matters less (Nokia) that's for sure, but the US still has some way to go in order to obliterate the HW dominance that still exists in the Asian manufacturers units.There is a seed change going on as regards the importance of apps in respect of the purchasing public, but you cannot take the market situation in the US and use it as a template to measure market conditions in other continents because they vary to a great degree.

Well, Europe matters less (Nokia) that's for sure, but the US still has some way to go in order to obliterate the HW dominance that still exists in the Asian manufacturers units.
There is a seed change going on as regards the importance of apps in respect of the purchasing public, but you cannot take the market situation in the US and use it as a template to measure market conditions in other continents because they vary to a great degree.

I think your point is that *one* European phone manufacturer has slipped a bit in some respects. Not sure that equates to all of Europe being irrelevant….and Android is far from a US-only endeavour.

I think your point is that *one* European phone manufacturer has slipped a bit in some respects. Not sure that equates to all of Europe being irrelevant.

…and Android is far from a US-only endeavour.

The vast majority of the population in the US does not own a smart phone. Most people buy phones because they look cute or their keypad lights up in pretty colors. Up until a couple of years ago, there was limited choice in what you could get from the network providers, as most phones here are locked to their networks.Yes, the iPhone has introduced many people to a robust mobile experience. But it has also introduced them to terms like “jailbreak” as they hate the restrictive and expensive plans forced on the by AT&T, not to mention the restrictions of where they can get their apps from.But that's all most have known in the US – what they were told. From my own personal experience, even the most novice, non-technical mobile phone owner uses SMS, MMS and wonders why Americans have to throw out a phone when they switch providers.Interesting how there has been no mention about Motorola, whose last innovative device was the StarTac.mp/m

The vast majority of the population in the US does not own a smart phone. Most people buy phones because they look cute or their keypad lights up in pretty colors. Up until a couple of years ago, there was limited choice in what you could get from the network providers, as most phones here are locked to their networks.

Yes, the iPhone has introduced many people to a robust mobile experience. But it has also introduced them to terms like “jailbreak” as they hate the restrictive and expensive plans forced on the by AT&T, not to mention the restrictions of where they can get their apps from.

But that's all most have known in the US – what they were told. From my own personal experience, even the most novice, non-technical mobile phone owner uses SMS, MMS and wonders why Americans have to throw out a phone when they switch providers.

Interesting how there has been no mention about Motorola, whose last innovative device was the StarTac.

mp/m

I believe it's about 20% of phone sales in the US are smartphones. I can't find a no for Europe to hand.

I believe it's about 20% of phone sales in the US are smartphones. I can't find a no for Europe to hand.

“Now all the cool kids have iPhones”… and “the coolest developers”… wtf?Ten years ago you were lucky to get a 3rd-gen behind wap-phone in New York. Granted, the iPhone as dragged the US kicking-and-screaming into the 21st century, and is a brilliant device, but still…Kind of like… you get your license and turn up at work with your brand-new sports car, and give it “I rule! I can drive anywhere!”. At which point your friends, who have been driving for ten years, shake their heads and say “whatever… nice car though”

“Now all the cool kids have iPhones”… and “the coolest developers”… wtf?

Ten years ago you were lucky to get a 3rd-gen behind wap-phone in New York. Granted, the iPhone as dragged the US kicking-and-screaming into the 21st century, and is a brilliant device, but still…

Kind of like… you get your license and turn up at work with your brand-new sports car, and give it “I rule! I can drive anywhere!”. At which point your friends, who have been driving for ten years, shake their heads and say “whatever… nice car though”

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?…

http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?…

it's a novelty thing, it will wear off in a couple of years and then it will be just another device that annoys you when it rings in the shower

it's a novelty thing, it will wear off in a couple of years and then it will be just another device that annoys you when it rings in the shower

Thanks Mark – had seen those, but was just looking for pure stats on %age of smartphones bought by US consumers v European consumers etc etc

Thanks Mark – had seen those, but was just looking for pure stats on %age of smartphones bought by US consumers v European consumers etc etc

Scoble just got chumpamatized.

Scoble just got chumpamatized.

*adds to his CV*

*adds to his CV*

Great stuff Ben. I was going to write a post saying pretty much the samething but you've summed it up perfectly here. Europe is not Nokia. Also, Scoble seems to switch between talking about Europe's mobile industry and Europe'smobile users throughout his post. It came across as quite a confused post to me…

Great stuff Ben. I was going to write a post saying pretty much the same
thing but you've summed it up perfectly here. Europe is not Nokia. Also, Scoble seems to switch between talking about Europe's mobile industry and Europe's
mobile users throughout his post. It came across as quite a confused post to me…

Robert Scoble gets exposed here. Ben Smith gets a free round for an excellent post. Dan Lane gets a gold star for the best comment. Tanks a million for the really mobile perspective.

Christ, as a company trying to launch our mobile platforms in the US, I would say in terms of mobile billing & infrastructure etc they are where we were 4 years ago. I love the iPhone but its not a guaranteed way to monetise the mobile web. End of!

Christ, as a company trying to launch our mobile platforms in the US, I would say in terms of mobile billing & infrastructure etc they are where we were 4 years ago.

I love the iPhone but its not a guaranteed way to monetise the mobile web. End of!

All aboard the tenuous link bus…Android is based on the Linux kernel which was started by a man in Finland and maintained by a man with a beard in Wales. It's also heavily based around Java which was invented by a Canadian. All Android hardware available so far has, as Ben mentioned, been designed and built by HTC in Taiwan.The iPhone is famously designed by Apple in Cupertino and built in China (presumably by underpaid workers). The principal designer of the iPhone is Jonathan Ive who comes from Chingford which is on the border of London and Essex (about 5 miles away from Chigwell which was the location for the 1980's BBC Sitcom “Birds of a Feather” which was about two wives of robbers currently serving a sentence in prison and has absolutely nothing to do with mobile phones) but it served as the acme of british humour of the period, much the same way Dad's Army did in the decades preceeding it… what did America have? M*A*S*H? Pfft remind me what the outcome of Vietnam was again?… speaking of war, it wasn't so long ago that the American's fought for their independence from the British and there are many people who believe that this independence should be revoked poste-haste… especially if American's are going to continue to prattle on about how much better the US of A is when they feel they have even the slightest advantage… there is such a thing as a sore winner you know!(This post is, of course, meant in jest. I love our colonial cousins and the contributions they have made to my waistline)

All aboard the tenuous link bus…

Android is based on the Linux kernel which was started by a man in Finland and maintained by a man with a beard in Wales. It's also heavily based around Java which was invented by a Canadian. All Android hardware available so far has, as Ben mentioned, been designed and built by HTC in Taiwan.

The iPhone is famously designed by Apple in Cupertino and built in China (presumably by underpaid workers). The principal designer of the iPhone is Jonathan Ive who comes from Chingford which is on the border of London and Essex (about 5 miles away from Chigwell which was the location for the 1980's BBC Sitcom “Birds of a Feather” which was about two wives of robbers currently serving a sentence in prison and has absolutely nothing to do with mobile phones) but it served as the acme of british humour of the period, much the same way Dad's Army did in the decades preceeding it… what did America have? M*A*S*H? Pfft remind me what the outcome of Vietnam was again?… speaking of war, it wasn't so long ago that the American's fought for their independence from the British and there are many people who believe that this independence should be revoked poste-haste… especially if American's are going to continue to prattle on about how much better the US of A is when they feel they have even the slightest advantage… there is such a thing as a sore winner you know!

(This post is, of course, meant in jest. I love our colonial cousins and the contributions they have made to my waistline)

Of course M*A*S*H was set in Korea

Yes, I was trying to point out that Americans don’t know the difference… too subtle?

You scare me with subtle… please go back to being ‘angry Dan’ who shouts death threats at Spanish ladies walking through our shot.

Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies ♫

I’m sure that’s what he meant to say… but it came out a bit angrier…

She honestly looked like she was about to walk through the shot.

Or are you talking about the spanish beggar who shook her cup at you while we were filming? ISTR she got a stern shouting at as well.

Any of the cool kids have a Motorola phone?

Robert Scoble gets exposed here. Ben Smith gets a free round for an excellent post. Dan Lane gets a gold star for the best comment. Tanks a million for the really mobile perspective.

Robert Scoble gets exposed here. Ben Smith gets a free round for an excellent post. Dan Lane gets a gold star for the best comment. Tanks a million for the really mobile perspective.

Of course M*A*S*H was set in Korea

Of course M*A*S*H was set in Korea

Yes, I was trying to point out that Americans don't know the difference… too subtle?

Yes, I was trying to point out that Americans don't know the difference… too subtle?

You scare me with subtle… please go back to being 'angry Dan' who shouts death threats at Spanish ladies walking through our shot.

You scare me with subtle… please go back to being 'angry Dan' who shouts death threats at Spanish ladies walking through our shot.

Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies ?

Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies ?

Let’s not forget the origin of the ARM1176JZF CPU powering the iPhone.

I'm sure that's what he meant to say… but it came out a bit angrier…

I'm sure that's what he meant to say… but it came out a bit angrier…

She honestly looked like she was about to walk through the shot.Or are you talking about the spanish beggar who shook her cup at you while we were filming? ISTR she got a stern shouting at as well.

She honestly looked like she was about to walk through the shot.

Or are you talking about the spanish beggar who shook her cup at you while we were filming? ISTR she got a stern shouting at as well.

Any of the cool kids have a Motorola phone?

Any of the cool kids have a Motorola phone?

Let's not forget the origin of the ARM1176JZF CPU powering the iPhone.

Let's not forget the origin of the ARM1176JZF CPU powering the iPhone.

though he is essentially right – hes more wrong.

though he is essentially right – hes more wrong.

though he is essentially right – hes more wrong.

I was at the talk Robert gave in Cambridge and spoke to him afterwards whilst I do not agree with some of the stuff he was saying it was true that the audience was full of iPhone users. However, the audience is hardly representative of people in Europe as a whole or phone users for that matter.

We do want to find out what people really use their phones for and have created a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JW74DefYZFPlWRJBC_2frLDQ_3d_3d

I have been involved in creating apps for Windows Mobile ( http://www.capturatalk.com ) which still has a considerable chunk of the smartphone market share and gives users a lot more freedom than the iPhone which needs to be jail broken to do anything useful. Yes the WM user interface is clunky but manufacturers such as HTC have created their own skins for the interface which make it really quite workable.

Europe has to watch out but so does America has the dominant handset manufacturers are in the far east! True mobile innovation is happening in Japan, China and Korea yet no one seems to mention that..

I was at the talk Robert gave in Cambridge and spoke to him afterwards whilst I do not agree with some of the stuff you were saying it was true that the audience was full of iPhone users. However, the audience is hardly representative of people in Europe as a whole or phone users for that matter.We do want to find out what people really use their phones for and have created a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JW74DefYZ…I have been involved in creating apps forWindows Mobile ( http://www.capturatalk.com )which still has a considerable chunk of market share and gives users a lot more freedom than theiPhone which needs to be jail broken to do anything useful. Yes the user interface is clunky but manufacturers such as HTC have created their own skins for the interface which make it really quite workable.Europe has to watch out but so does America has the dominant handset manufacturers are in the far east! True mobile innovation is happening in Japan, China and Korea yet no one seems to mention that..

I was at the talk Robert gave in Cambridge and spoke to him afterwards whilst I do not agree with some of the stuff you were saying it was true that the audience was full of iPhone users. However, the audience is hardly representative of people in Europe as a whole or phone users for that matter.

We do want to find out what people really use their phones for and have created a survey http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=JW74DefYZ…

I have been involved in creating apps forWindows Mobile ( http://www.capturatalk.com )which still has a considerable chunk of market share and gives users a lot more freedom than theiPhone which needs to be jail broken to do anything useful. Yes the user interface is clunky but manufacturers such as HTC have created their own skins for the interface which make it really quite workable.

Europe has to watch out but so does America has the dominant handset manufacturers are in the far east! True mobile innovation is happening in Japan, China and Korea yet no one seems to mention that..

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